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julieandrews ([personal profile] julieandrews) wrote2008-11-02 07:50 pm

Female Characters, Female Writers

[livejournal.com profile] swanjun pointed me to this lj post on female characters. Do you prefer reading about male characters to female ones? If so, why? For me, I'm not sure if I prefer reading about male characters or not, but when it comes to writing characters, I do much better with male ones. They hold my interest better. Does it come from years and years of reading about interesting male characters and less-than-interesting female characters? Or is it from something else?

Broad Universe's mailing list directed me to this article on the ambition of women writers. It doesn't touch on the cultural upbringing women receive that tells them to keep quiet, be submissive, try not to get noticed. Which I think is a great deal of the problem here.

That's why when people say there aren't enough women writers writing science fiction, getting their science fiction published, or getting their science fiction acknowledged, I have to wonder how much is on the women. Why aren't you writing? Why aren't you submitting? If you are submitting, why are you submitting to low-pay, no-pay, or low-circulation markets? Fanfic writers, are you really content with being read only by fanfic readers and not getting paid for it? Or is the 'hobby' aspect of it what keeps it safe and comfortable? Are you not winning awards because you're too humble and nice-quiet-girl to get yourself on the list, or to tell your publisher to put you on the list?

What gets less attention is the dearth of female main characters in science fiction, particularly at certain age levels and certain subgenres. Even if an anthology is half women authors, it might still be all male protagonists. Were we all raised on such a heavy dose of interesting male characters that that's all any writer can write, male or female? When a writer does use a female protagonist, are they usually less interesting and thus that story doesn't get published?

Does The Other play a part? Male writers may be drawn to female characters because they're not like themselves? While female writers are drawn to male ones for the same reason? Many of the more memorable, likeable, enjoyable, interesting female main characters and even supporting characters I can think of are written by male writers. Is this because male writers write more interesting female characters? Or is it because they write them more like male characters and we're right back to liking male characters better?

Read. Ponder.

[identity profile] jehanni.livejournal.com 2008-11-04 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard it argued that since "men" (in which we include the median-age-12 boy that is the typical consumer of SF) prefer to read about male characters, and "women" (and since girls statistically read more and more fluently earlier than boys, shall we guesstimate the median age of 10?) are willing to read about both male and female characters, the proper, game-theory-optimized response is for everyone to write about male characters if they want to be published.

I'm not buying it.

When I asked my 76-year-old Dad if he'd read Sue Grafton's alphabet mysteries (he being a mystery fan), he said he just didn't want to read about sex from a female point of view. Too icky.


And on the m/m fiction brought up by birdhousefrog: a (older, hetero male) colleague at work said that while he has no intellectual problem with people he knows choosing to have relationships with others of the same gender, the depiction in film (and presumably on stage or in life) of physical m/m closeness makes him feel slightly sick. It doesn't have to be overly erotic imagery, and he has a physiological response. He finds this curious, but is not interested in repeating it: it's uncomfortable. He'll just avoid the subject.